Interview

Succeeding as a multigenerational workforce

Henkel CHRO Sylvie Nicol in conversation with a Gen Z employee, Leonie Hartmann, on reshaping a changing work environment through dialogue, authenticity, and shared purpose

New Work Jul 3, 2025

Our work environment is undergoing a profound transformation, shaped by shifting values, technological advances, and a workforce that now spans four generations. As many Baby Boomers approach retirement and Gen Z enters the job market in full force, organizations are navigating a complex blend of expectations, communication styles, and work habits. This intergenerational mix presents both challenges and opportunities for collaboration, innovation, and growth and demands a new form of generational leadership. In this interview, we explore the evolving dynamics of the workforce through the eyes of two colleagues at Henkel: Sylvie Nicol, CHRO at Henkel, who has been with the company for almost 30 years. And Leonie Hartmann, Sustainability Communications Manager at Henkel and part of Gen Z. Their perspectives reveal not only the contrasts and similarities between generations but also the potential for mutual learning and shared purpose. Together, they offer a glimpse into what it takes to thrive in a truly multigenerational workplace.

Sylvie: What expectations does your generation have towards employers?

Leonie: What I've always been striving for is to work for a company with an ambition that aligns with my own values and beliefs. A company that also strives for progress – both social and economic. But not at the cost of its workforce. A company that takes care of its employees in terms of health and benefits. But that also offers a job that is more than 9 to 5 sitting at a desk. A job that aligns with my values and connects to a purpose that the younger generation also identifies with.

Sylvie: Do you think your expectations are very different from former generations?

Leonie: I think we are more vocal about our expectations and that we feel we can demand more because we know that in the current labor market talents are needed. But, while we know we can have higher demands, we also want to demand something that gives us purpose – that's at least what I have always been hoping for. And obviously, there's generational conflict – whether that’s within families or within big companies like Henkel or any societal group.

Sylvie: Looking at your generation, I don’t think previous generations are necessarily jealous. I believe they're curious and intrigued. Speaking for myself, it’s this authenticity that you bring into companies, which also – in a sense – comes with a lot of shaking the tree and perhaps challenges others to think differently. 

Portrait photo of Sylvie Nicol, Executive Vice President Human Resources, Infrastructure and Sustainability at Henkel

I believe leadership is a continuous journey. Just because you've reached a leadership position doesn’t automatically make you a great leader. You have to constantly reflect, challenge who you are, how you lead, make yourself vulnerable and accept your weaknesses to drive progress.

Sylvie: You work with different generations at Henkel – how does that feel?

Leonie: I've always felt welcome and supported. And of course, there are different perceptions, and some might be related to generational differences. But looking at this term of generations, it's also often criticized. We cannot put all people under one blanket and expect that they have the same experiences or feelings, just because they are roughly the same age. At a company as big as Henkel, with 47,000 employees, individuality is highly appreciated. When we look at a broader society, I feel there are misunderstandings and misperceptions about Gen Z, especially because people might feel or say that Gen Z is lazy, that we are social snowflakes that have to be protected, that we are more interested in self-fulfillment than in driving economic success, which would not be beneficial for a company. But I think at Henkel, it's been realized that we talk about a generation that is hard-working and that wants to be hard-working – if set into the right positions. And these are the positions that have value, that have purpose, where we feel that we can have an impact on the company and on our colleagues. 

Leonie: How did you experience generational conflicts in the beginning of your own professional career?

Sylvie: My impression is that the topic of each generation looking at the next with a certain sense of criticism is a never-ending story. Society evolves, and obviously each generation will be different from the previous one. And perhaps even look at the next one with curiosity or sometimes with a lack of understanding. I’ve felt that too, though on different topics. Today, we talk more openly about it. The fact that your generation speaks more about life and expectations in life, and maybe less about work alone can lead to misunderstandings. My generation was certainly less daring when it came to talking about expectations, but that doesn't mean we didn't have them. I always say – when I'm asked about generational differences – that there is no right or wrong. There's just a different way to address challenges. I also have to say that I’m observing companies where older generations are very happy to benefit from the battle that your generation is taking on.

What is “generational leadership”?

Generational leadership means leading with empathy and adaptability across age groups – from Boomers to Gen Z. It’s not about managing generations separately, but about creating a culture where diverse experiences, values, and skills come together. This leadership style focuses on fairness, flexible structures, and personalized development, making sure everyone feels seen, heard, and empowered to grow – no matter their age.

Sylvie: How can the younger generations help to shape the future of companies and their culture?

Leonie: I’ve recently seen a statistic about what people perceive as drivers and obstacles to sustainable transformation of companies. I believe this also applies to cultural transformation, because sustainability is always a question of culture as well. Most of the people surveyed said that younger generations will be core drivers of sustainable and cultural transformation. We have demands. And when companies advertise that they prioritize sustainability and have a strong culture, and I join such a company based on that promise only to notice that’s not the case, I am not going to be happy in that job. But if I see there is room for this – that there's progress in sustainability in a way that there's cultural transformation happening – then we can be driving forces behind that. Because we want to build it from the inside out. We expect it from companies. And this does not only apply to younger generations – this applies to all generations within a company. It’s about establishing this connection between attracting people with the promise of a strong culture and good sustainability progress, and then actually acting on it.

Sylvie: So, delivering on promises. That's the authenticity. If you don't find what you were promised, you might leave very quickly – which is an encouragement for companies to show what they stand for. And no company is perfect. Many of us are on a journey when it comes to topics such as sustainability, culture or diversity. But it’s about being transparent on where we are, who we are and what we’re striving for.

Leonie: What are the demands and core beliefs of Gen Z in the recruitment process? What changes have you noticed?

Sylvie: It’s about the question: What can I expect from the company? Especially on topics related to values, culture, sustainability and diversity. These play a very important role. The candidates really want to understand what they will find. If they will land in an environment where they can be their true self, where they can really belong. And when it comes to the topic of career, it’s not so different from previous generations. They are curious to know what we have to offer in terms of career development – while maybe not using that specific term. That's what’s interesting – it's more about: What kind of experience can I have? Can I change easily from one department to another? Can I go abroad? It's about how I can grow and explore different experiences while for previous generations it may have been more about career development in terms of a vertical experience. That’s a key difference. But still, it's about personal development. At Henkel, we are open for people changing roles, changing careers. That's something we believe in for individuals, but also for the business: We believe that we do better business if we have different perspectives. 

Portrait photo of Leonie Hartmann, Sustainability Communications Manager at Henkel

What I've always been striving for is to work for a company with an ambition that aligns with my own values and beliefs. A company that also strives for progress – both social and economic. But not at the cost of its workforce.

 

Sylvie: As a Gen Z representative, what advice would you give to leaders of the older generation?

Leonie: I believe it’s not so different from approaching people of any age who are joining the company. It's about staying open and avoiding stereotypical thinking. We’re often quick to put on “generation glasses”. But when we have a strong corporate culture – as we do at Henkel – we can use those differences to build on, take needs seriously and leverage the potential of Gen Z or any younger generation. Because we have great ideas, but we need to be in the right place – with the right company and the right job. Identifying this is a question of leadership. When it’s a match and we are placed in the right teams, it's not a matter of generations anymore, but rather a matter of teamplay and competence.

Leonie: How has leadership changed towards Gen Z from your perspective and what advice would you give Gen Z for their own leadership journey?

Sylvie: I think we've been moving from a very authoritative style of leadership towards one that’s more empathetic and caring. And I strongly believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle. It's about balance – like many things in life. My advice to leaders in general, regardless of generations, is: Just because you lead does not mean you know everything. You need great people around you and you need to be open to listen in order to benefit from the value that your team brings. And through that, you become a better leader. I believe leadership is a continuous journey. Just because you've reached a leadership position doesn’t automatically make you a great leader. You have to constantly reflect, challenge who you are, how you lead, make yourself vulnerable and accept your weaknesses to drive progress. 

Watch the full conversation between CHRO Sylvie Nicol and Gen Z representative Leonie Hartmann, Sustainability Communications Manager, here:

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